{"id":373,"date":"2020-07-09T04:01:00","date_gmt":"2020-07-09T04:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/covidqanda.org\/?p=373"},"modified":"2020-11-25T11:37:11","modified_gmt":"2020-11-25T16:37:11","slug":"do-we-need-to-worry-about-exposure-to-covid","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/covidqanda.org\/?p=373","title":{"rendered":"Do we need to worry about exposure to COVID thanks to ER visit?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" id=\"5960\"><strong>Question:<\/strong>&nbsp;My toddler busted her chin getting out of the tub the other day, prompting us to visit the emergency room. A couple of stitches later, she\u2019s fine and was happy with the whole experience because she got lollipops and juice from the doctor \u2014 an extra special treat since she never gets those at home. Anyway, while we were sitting in the emergency room, we were around people coughing, people there for COVID tests, and just a general sea of humanity. Yes, they were wearing masks, but still, it was&nbsp;<em>very<\/em>&nbsp;disconcerting. Do we need to worry about exposure to COVID? Do we need to self-isolate?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" id=\"57f2\"><strong>Answer:<\/strong>&nbsp;I\u2019m glad baby girl is fine and took it all in stride. I\u2019m sorry that you had to go through that experience . Honestly, I\u2019m shocked that the emergency room has everyone sitting together. I would have hoped (and expected!) they would have people with COVID-like symptoms and people wanting a COVID test to wait in a different area! Indeed, if the emergency room were following&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/coronavirus\/2019-ncov\/hcp\/infection-control-recommendations.html\">CDC guidelines for infection control<\/a>, they would be screening and triaging everyone coming into the facility and separating anyone with COVID symptoms. Since that didn\u2019t happen, I think you may have to consider yourself exposed and self-isolate. \ud83d\ude41 Here\u2019s more background on why I\u2019m suggesting that you may need to self-isolate:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>There are a few differences in how&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/coronavirus\/2019-ncov\/php\/contact-tracing\/contact-tracing-plan\/appendix.html#contact\">CDC<\/a>&nbsp;and other public health groups define \u201cclose contact.\u201d I\u2019m quoting the close contact definition that&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.state.nj.us\/health\/cd\/documents\/topics\/NCOV\/COVID-19-PUBLIC%20FAQs_03202020.pdf\">New Jersey<\/a>&nbsp;uses because it directly addresses hospital waiting rooms: \u201cA close contact is defined as being within approximately 6 feet (2meters) of a COVID-19 case for a prolonged period of time (approximately 10 minutes or longer); close contact can occur while caring for, living with, visiting, or sharing a health care waiting area or room with a COVID-19 case OR Having direct contact with infectious secretions of a COVID-19 case (for example, being coughed on).\u201d&nbsp;<strong>Based on the waiting room experience you described, it sounds like you meet the criteria of being a \u201cclose contact.\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;Of course, I was not there and I do not know what your experience truly was, so please use your own best judgement.<\/li><li>While I have not found any direct evidence of COVID-19 infection resulting from exposure in a hospital waiting room, we do have some reason for concern based on evidence from other diseases (though like most things in science, it\u2019s not clear cut). Here are a few pieces of related evidence that unfortunately do not offer much clarity.&nbsp;<strong>From what I\u2019m reading, I think that if everyone was wearing masks, sitting far apart, and not playing with common toys or reading from a shared pile of magazines or the like, your risk is quite low.<\/strong><\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>This article from June 2020, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC7152925\/\">Minimizing intra-hospital transmission of COVID-19: the role of social distancing<\/a>\u201d describes Singapore General Hospital\u2019s recent experience of caring for COVID patients. Of the 75 cases they cared for in the first months of the pandemic, 1 case was not initially isolated and potentially exposed 18 other patients and 8 health care workers. None of the exposed patients or health care workers became infected. The authors believe this happy outcome was the result of social distancing + mask wearing by the infected patient.<\/li><li>This article from 2018, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC6242053\/\">Infection prevention and control in paediatric office settings<\/a>\u201d, offers an informative synthesis of the evidence:<ul><li>Measles has been transmitted in paediatricians\u2019 offices.<\/li><li>There are reports of transmission of tuberculosis from physicians to patients in paediatricians\u2019 offices.<\/li><li>Pertussis has been transmitted to healthcare workers in paediatric ambulatory settings.<\/li><li>In-office spread of common viral and gastrointestinal infections has not been reported, but is nonetheless probable if offices don\u2019t take precautions.<\/li><li>One study showed no increased risk of influenza-like illness while another study reported an increased risk of influenza-like illness in a family member in the 2 weeks following a well-child visit.<\/li><\/ul><\/li><li>This 2010 modeling study, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC2939637\/\">Potential for airborne transmission of infection in the waiting areas of healthcare premises<\/a>\u201d concluded, \u201cUnder normal circumstances the risk of acquiring a TB infection during a visit to a hospital waiting area is minimal. Likewise the risks associated with the transmission of influenza, although an order of magnitude greater than those for TB, are relatively small. By comparison, the risks associated with measles are high.\u201d<\/li><li>This 2012 cohort study, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC5780729\/\">Extremely low risk for acquisition of a respiratory viral infection in the emergency room of a large pediatric hospital during the winter season<\/a>\u201d followed 615 children in Athens, Greece who visited the emergency room, finding that only 22 (3\u00b76%) children developed at least one symptom compatible with a respiratory viral infection within 1\u20137 days after the visit, and only 3 children (0\u00b75%) developed an influenza\u2010like illness.<\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question:&nbsp;My toddler busted her chin getting out of the tub the other day, prompting us to visit the emergency room. A couple of stitches later, she\u2019s fine and was happy with the whole experience because she got lollipops and juice from the doctor \u2014 an extra special treat since she never gets those at home. 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